System Upgrade
Microsoft Vista
Dec 30, 2008

To say the "Vista sucks" is an understatement.

Simply put, older programs will not work with Vista. This is intentional - Microsoft has purposely crippled Vista so that you will have to buy new software.

Background | Improvements | Internet Explorer | Help Files | Visual Basic 5 | Security
Windows Explorer | Minesweeper | Video Capture | Bottom Line


Background

A friend bought a new Gateway computer with the 64-bit Vista operating system. The only thing that sort of worked on it was Internet Explorer ... except that there was no way to change the default home page. Other than that, the machine was not used - the software my friend loaded simply refused to work.

Over the holidays, I was ask to help and make it work. These pages document some of what I learned. Basically,

When it was discovered that the system was basically unusable, my friend contacted Gateway. They agreed to install Windows XP ... but would charge $60 to do it.

Wait, these guys sold my friend what is now known to be a worthless computer and they want another $60 to fix it. (They said it was to cover the time required to load the new operating system.)


Improvements

To say that everything about Vista is bad is unfair. In fact, it contains several very nice improvements. Since this document is mostly about Vista problems, I will present the improvements first. I have been a regular user of SysInternals' Process Explorer for several years. As a result, the task manager improvements are not that significant. (SysInternals was recently bought by Microsoft.)

The one additional improvement is really not worth all the other hassles.


Internet Explorer

The first support call I received for Vista concerned Internet Explorer Pretty simple - from the menu, select and the control is on the first tab.

The problem was that there was no menu. I do not know if this is a Vista issue or a Gateway "improvement", but the menu was not displayed. The solution turned out to be trivial, but long distance, over the phone, it was too obscure for my friend.

There were 2 separate ways to display the menu

When I was using IE, it was very frustrating because everything is in a different location. For instance, it took me 5 minutes to find the Refresh button.

These are not major drawbacks, but they are a major cause of user frustration.


Help Files

Microsoft has developed 2 different help file standards. There was once a court battle trying to stop Microsoft from including an internet browser as part of the operating system. In order to "prove" that the browser is a "required" part of the OS, the new compiled html help was developed. (Well, that is the theory.)

To quote Microsoft

Bottom line - help for older programs will not work!

In my opinion, this is an attempt to kill all existing windows applications.

Well, there is a work around - if you are willing to first install Windows Genuine Advantage (Microsoft spyware), then you will be permitted to download WinHlp32.exe and your older software will work.

My question is - If Windows Genuine Advantage is so great, then why wasn't it included in Vista?


Visual Basic 5

The primary planned usage for the new computer was to develop programs using Visual Basic 5 (VB5).

Simply put, Visual Basic 5 does not work with Vista. (I created a separate page for the details.)

Technically

Additional info is presented here.


Security

Security is always a trade-off. Vista has added a few interesting changes.

With Vista, there are frequent dialog boxes asking if you really want to run the program you just requested. I double click an executable file, and then there a usually a prompt asking if I actually want to run the program! Nice security enhancement, but very irritating.

In addition, the programs are run with "user" permissions. (by default) If they then try to do a protected function, you will be presented with a dialog box that allows you to permit administrator permissions.

This could be characterized as either a plus or a minus. I have not used Vista enough to decide if the extra hassle is worth the possible security improvement.

Basically, these features should block most pre-Vista parasites. However, there should be several ways to write new parasites that circumvent these controls.

You can configure individual programs to run with administer permissions by modifying the associated properties. Nothing in VB5 worked until this was done.


Windows Explorer

Windows Explorer is the program that displays the desktop and provides directory and file access (File manager).


Address Bar

With Windows XP, one of the options allowed the path to be displayed in the Address bar. This feature was changed for Vista in such a way that it is no longer possible copy path names from the address bar to the clipboard.

For most users, this is not an issue ... but I use that feature a lot when creating documentation (like this web page).

(There may still be a way to do this, but I no longer have access to a system where I can experiment. This feature was not available by default.)


Hidden Files

There have always been a few hidden files (like desktop.ini) that Windows Explorer refuses to display. Apparently, with Vista, there are a few new super hidden files that are used regularly (every few seconds). These are only visible via the Resource Monitor.


Selecting multiple files

There is a new option When enabled, this allows you to select multiple items with just a mouse (instead of using the 2-handed Ctrl-click). Fortunately, both Ctrl-click and Shift-click still work when the checkbox option is enabled.

Cool idea, but not more useful than old method (for me). This could be useful for people that have a handicap (like only one useable hand).


New directory structure

64-bit Vista uses a slightly modified directory structure. I was not able to determine (nor do I care) if this is because it is Vista or because it is a 64-bit operating system. When VB5 was installed, it was placed in C:\Program Files (x86). With previous operating systems, VB5 was placed in C:\Program Files.

When VB5 was installed, the associated (and non-functional) ActiveX components were placed in SysWOW64. With previous operating systems, they were placed in System32.

This new directory structure caused several problems with programs ported from Windows XP.


Registry size

On both Windows XP and Vista, the main parts of the registry are located in However, the registry size ... well Apparently, for Vista, there are separate registry keys for 32-bit and 64-bit programs ... but 4 times larger? Come on guys, this is a nightmare.


Misc

This is just some additional information.

The system I was working on had 8 gigabytes of RAM. (Yes, that is excessive. The salesperson really took my friend.) As a result,


Minesweeper

Minesweeper is one of the games that comes with Windows. I was surprised to see that its performance was reduced in Vista.

As usual, Microsoft has proven again that "changed" does NOT mean improved.


Video Capture

Bottom line - 64-bit drivers do not exist for my video camera.

Of course, this took 2 days to discover.

Additionally, many gps units will not work. Specifically, Garmon does not support 64-bit Vista.


Bottom Line

The bottom line is that - Vista sucks!


Author: Robert Clemenzi - clemenzi@cpcug.org
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